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Ultra light
#1
Does anyone here do big walks e.g. PCT; AT; CDT ?

I don't, but I'm curious about the experiences of others  Huh

I've been watching some YouTube and it seems to me there is strong logic in minimizing your load whether you are hiking, hunting or bugging out.

Much of this was covered in years gone by however lots has happened since then Shy 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhqmV2...hzqJz4VFcw

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC18exdG...WisrnDXiZg

Not a doco, but still covers some of the issues

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_(2014_film)
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(05-05-2018, 05:15 AM)Deerstalker Wrote: Does anyone here do big walks e.g. PCT; AT; CDT ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Crest_Trail

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_Trail

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Divide_Trail

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lo..._footpaths
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#3
Ah worth looking at Deerstalker.
I have always been interested in a lighter load.
Must go now though, a Thai bar will go bankrupt if I do not drink there tonight - it is the off season now in Thailand.
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#4
Ahh, Peter, you are back in Thighland...please open a new thread and advise us of your adventures.

DD
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(05-05-2018, 10:16 AM)Limey Pete Wrote: Ah worth looking at Deerstalker.

Maybe you could walk one of those routes & provide a report Pete Huh

Lots of girls.............not so many bars Confused
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#6
Some of these people claim to get by with 8 or 10 lbs of gear for months on end - with occasional resupply & change overs via the post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvNZKjhS0s4&t=121s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1dAY9RaNuY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzvYCf_-UfA
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(05-05-2018, 11:10 AM)ddennis2 Wrote: Ahh, Peter, you are back in Thighland...please open a new thread and advise us of your adventures.

DD

Yes I have been meaning to post a trip report of my last visit to the UK Dennis.
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#8
In order to start this thread in a constructive way I would like to state that, I do not see the point of a Titanium Cutlery 3 Piece Set costing $19.99. when a plastic set, lighter, cheaper, and just as good can be had $3.
And they could be lost without trauma. 

Big Grin
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(05-06-2018, 09:20 AM)Limey Pete Wrote: I do not see the point of a Titanium Cutlery 3 Piece Set costing $19.99. when a plastic set, lighter, cheaper, and just as good can be had $3.

You are correct Pete, to a point.............although on balance I personally have an opposing view. Rolleyes

Lighter - maybe
Cheaper - yes
Disposable - yes
More durable - probably not
Heat resistant - Ti wins (or Al)
Toxicity - the jury is still out / but minimal risk
Versatility - multi use - Ti wins
Non stick cookware friendly - plastic wins


Of course , not all plastics are created equal Huh
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#10
If you want to read a ultra light through walk of the appalachian trail there is a account of Eustace Conway doing it with just about nothing. Not sure of a link but will look around a bit and see what I can find.









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(05-07-2018, 12:03 AM)randyt Wrote: If you want to read a ultra light through walk of the appalachian trail there is a account of Eustace Conway doing it with just about nothing. Not sure of a link but will look around a bit and see what I can find.

Not much, but a start Shy

"At age 17 Conway left home so that he could live in a tipi in the woods. He has hiked the entire Appalachian Trail and claims to have set the world record for crossing the United States on horseback from the Atlantic to the Pacific." 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eustace_Conway

http://turtleislandpreserve.org/blog
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(05-06-2018, 09:57 AM)Deerstalker Wrote:
(05-06-2018, 09:20 AM)Limey Pete Wrote: I do not see the point of a Titanium Cutlery 3 Piece Set costing $19.99. when a plastic set, lighter, cheaper, and just as good can be had $3.

You are correct Pete, to a point.............although on balance I personally have an opposing view. Rolleyes

Lighter - maybe
Cheaper - yes
Disposable - yes
More durable - probably not
Heat resistant - Ti wins (or Al)
Toxicity - the jury is still out / but minimal risk
Versatility - multi use - Ti wins
Non stick cookware friendly - plastic wins


Of course , not all plastics are created equal Huh
I have a theory, and it might be wrong, but I believe that a lot of this super state of the art outdoor equipment is bought to show status.
For instance i was in the lake district in the UK, and a beani (wooly hat) had a North face patch on the front of it - it coat $25.
It was wool i suppose, but I could find another wool one which would cost $7.
So why does the North Face wooly hat sell?
Answer, I think, is that it is a status symbol.
And I think titanium is the same.
I know a Ti cooking pot is lighter than aluminium, but is really worth fours time the price of an aluminium pot to save say - two ounces?
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#13
I remember about Eustace, it's in a book called the last american man. written by a lady named elizabeth. She wrote that at times he ate road kill and carried his water in a two liter soda bottle slung over his shoulder with a cord.









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(05-07-2018, 03:29 PM)Limey Pete Wrote: I have a theory, and it might be wrong, but I believe that a lot of this super state of the art outdoor equipment is bought to show status.

I'm sure that is true for some as is the converse - some are embarrassed to be seen with trendy, high priced items. Blush

To each his own............

The trick is to look past the brand and establish the underlying value for money.

Of course, if your gear gets lost or stolen regularly.......... that changes the entire equation.

I don't think Ti is any lighter than Al however it is higher strength and there is some suspicion of a connection between Al & Alzheimer's.

I would also expect Ti to tolerate higher temperatures.
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(05-08-2018, 02:25 AM)Deerstalker Wrote:
(05-07-2018, 03:29 PM)Limey Pete Wrote: I have a theory, and it might be wrong, but I believe that a lot of this super state of the art outdoor equipment is bought to show status.

I'm sure that is true for some as is the converse - some are embarrassed to be seen with trendy, high priced items. Blush

To each his own............

The trick is to look past the brand and establish the underlying value for money.

Of course, if your gear gets lost or stolen regularly.......... that changes the entire equation.

I don't think Ti is any lighter than Al however it is higher strength and there is some suspicion of a connection between Al & Alzheimer's.

I would also expect Ti to tolerate higher temperatures.

You could be right there; I thought many people called Al showed symptoms of alkysimers
Al jolson, Al jardine, Al Snow, Al Roker, Al Gore, Al Capone.
No scrub that last one. Al Capone had syphilis not alkysimers.
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"As God once said - and I think rightly . . ."
Field Marshal Viscount Montgomery

“Steady Monty. you cant speak to me like that. I'm you boss."
Dwight D. Eisenhower


"Remember gentlemen it is not just France we are fighting for, it's champagne."
Churchill 




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