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Cold Steel 2018
#16
(05-23-2018, 11:52 PM)Grizzly Dave Wrote: ...but a pack of smokes was 60 cents in 1971

And a gallon of fuel regular gasoline was thirty-two cents a gallon.  Wow, How prices have increased!
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#17
Not being much of a knife whore, and admittedly, knowing very little about knives, other than they are good for cutting, I am astounded by the prices that commercial models command.

I can thank Luke Swenson and Bill Ruple for giving me an appreciation of the work and craftsmanship that goes into a well made, custom knife.  Their prices, while now, beyond my grasp, are actually an excellent reflection of the blood, sweat, tears, craftsmanship, and love they put into every knife they craft. And a bargain to boot.

Alas, many people want a custom knife, but at Wal-Mart prices.

But, to my credit, I only have to tap our walking encyclopedia, Grizzly Dave, for information on a particular knife.

DD
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#18
Cold Steel isn't really expensive when one takes the actual price (rather than MSRP) and inflation into account.

That said, for large knives I'd rather go with TOPS. The prices are about the same as CS high end knives (some less expensive, some more) and they are American made.

For those that think CS fixed blades are expensive, check out the ones by Spyderco, Benchmade, and Emerson.
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#19
(05-24-2018, 11:02 AM)ddennis2 Wrote: knowing very little about knives, other than they are good for cutting, I am astounded by the prices that commercial models command.

Top of the line quality doesn't need to be expensive if all you want to do is use your knife.

When people become collectors other factors are at play (as with jewelry or art) and cost is relative..........it isn't expensive if you can resell it at a profit IMO. Rolleyes
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#20
Although this is remarkable..........and worthy of a premium IMO Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkemT5ciBnw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ysLVyu6c3s
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#21
(05-25-2018, 03:18 AM)Deerstalker Wrote: [quote pid='572550' dateline='1527159769']
..........it isn't expensive if you can resell it at a profit IMO. Rolleyes

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What I should have said is that the prices SOME of the commercial models can bring.....

As far as reselling for a profit....that isn't the way we do it in my family...we always seem to buy high and sell low..... Rolleyes Cool

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#22
(05-25-2018, 11:19 AM)Deerstalker Wrote: Although this is remarkable..........and worthy of a premium IMO Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkemT5ciBnw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ysLVyu6c3s

See...that is the kind of stuff that drives me nuts...I have never had reason to use a knife like that and for many of those tasks would use an axe, a hatchet or even a chainsaw......maybe I'm just an out of touch curmudgeon......

BTW, GET OFF MY LAWN!!!  Big Grin

DD
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#23
(05-25-2018, 06:52 PM)ddennis2 Wrote:
(05-25-2018, 11:19 AM)Deerstalker Wrote: Although this is remarkable..........and worthy of a premium IMO Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkemT5ciBnw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ysLVyu6c3s

See...that is the kind of stuff that drives me nuts...I have never had reason to use a knife like that and for many of those tasks would use an axe, a hatchet or even a chainsaw......maybe I'm just an out of touch curmudgeon......

BTW, GET OFF MY LAWN!!!  Big Grin

DD

It's not about "using a knife like that".  It's a test designed to show the knife maker's ability to fashion a tool to perform various tasks requiring hard impact, retaining sharpness to slice different objects, etc.  It takes  into consideration shape of the blade, edge geometry (an internet term, I don't know what the makers call it), choice of metal, heat treat, sharpening, etc.  Also, the ability of the maker to perform those tasks under pressure and time.

Tai Goo once sharpened a piece of steel to where he could split a hair, lengthwise.  The trollers groused and shit on him until he said, "Hey, it's just pushing the envelope.  How sharp can I get a piece of steel?"  It had nothing to do with the "practicality" of the piece.

When Rik Palm made his test blade for Journeyman bladesmith, it had to be bent 90 degrees, then bent back straight without breaking.  Some little cracks were OK.  Now nobody in his right mind is going to do that to his custom knife, but it is comforting to know that the maker is capable of making a knife that will handle some abuse.

Nobody in his right mind wants to abuse a knife (except Stiff Clamp), but stuck in the wilderness with only one knife will have you looking to use it beyond simply slicing up a rat.  Well, you SHOULD have an ax too, but what if you don't?  "There you are", as my Grandpappy used to say...

At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter.  They are learning, testing their skills and having fun.  It's their business...

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#24
"........ it really doesn't matter.  They are learning, testing their skills and having fun....."

I think so............

I think of it like benchrest shooting - it shows what is possible and there is a trickle down effect for us normal folks - also like pure scientific research, you just never know what will be discovered along the way Cool
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#25
".....maybe I'm just an out of touch curmudgeon......"

Maybe,........... but don't tell me you wouldn't like to have a piece of steel like that should push come to shove - Griz would be jealous  Rolleyes
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#26
"What I should have said is that the prices SOME of the commercial models can bring....."

That is usually down to the company's marketing stradegy

High volume sales with low margin v/s low volume sales at high margin (or somewhere in between) Shy
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#27
I get all of that Bill...but it still makes me shake my head.....if I am stuck, alone or possibly with me and Sasquatch, or even worse, Grizzly Dave, with only one knife....well, then, I have more problems than can be counted on both hands and both feet........

DD
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#28
Ok, so axes maybe Confused

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgDv6YzXeHQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAuEtdQxl2k
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#29
Speaking of expensive production knives, Gerber has a new limited edition MKII variation:

https://www.gerbergear.com/Knives/Fixed/...ampaign=gg

The blade looks similar to the one on my 1980s Guardian II so it might actually be able to cut, unlike the current MKII. lol

Obviously this is for collectors.
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